Clunkers info part 1

[Z28SSMAN]

NEWS FLASH: C.A.R.S. Program Statistics
August 5, 2009

Dealer Transactions
Number Submitted: 184,304
Dollar Value: $775.2M

Top 10 New Vehicles Purchased
1. Toyota Corolla
2. Ford Focus FWD
3. Honda Civic
4. Toyota Prius
5. Toyota Camry
6. Hyundai Elantra
7. Ford Escape FWD
8. Dodge Caliber
9. Honda Fit
10. Chevrolet Cobalt

New Vehicles Manufacturers
General Motors 18.7%
Toyota 17.9%
Ford 16.0%
Honda 11.6%
Chrysler 10.6%
Nissan 7.0%
Hyundai 6.6%
Kia 3.8%
Mazda 2.3%
Subaru 2.2%
Volkswagen 1.9%
Suzuki 0.4%
MINI 0.3%
Mitsubishi 0.3%
Smart 0.2%
Volvo 0.1%
All Other 0.1%

Nearly half of new vehicles purchased under the program were from the Big Three.The Big Three’s share in this program (45%) is equivalent to their overall share in the auto market (about 45%). Four of the top ten selling vehicles are manufactured by the Big Three. Of non-Big Three purchases, preliminary analysis suggests that well over half of these new vehicles were manufactured in the United States .


Top 10 Trade-in Vehicles
1. Ford Explorer 4WD
2. Ford F150 Pickup 2WD
3. Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD
4. Jeep Cherokee 4WD
5. Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan 2WD
6. Ford Explorer 2WD
7. Chevrolet Blazer 4WD
8. Ford F150 Pickup 4WD
9. Chevrolet C1500 Pickup 2WD
10. Ford Windstar FWD Van


Vehicles Purchased by Category
Passenger Cars: 88,814
Category 1 Truck: 52,391
Category 2 Truck: 8,601
Category 3 Truck: 295

Thus far, 83% of trade-ins under the program are trucks, and 59% of new vehicle purchases are cars. The program is working far better than anyone anticipated at moving consumers out of old, dirty trucks and SUVs and into new more fuel-efficient cars.



Vehicle Trade-in by Category
Passenger Cars: 24,903
Category 1 Truck: 99,186
Category 2 Truck: 24,931
Category 3 Truck: 1,081


Average Fuel Economy
New vehicles Mileage: 25.3 MPG
Trade-in Mileage: 15.8 MPG.
Overall increase: 9.6 MPG, or a 61% improvement

Cars purchased under the program are, on average, 21% above the average fuel economy of all new cars currently available, and 63% above the average fuel economy of cars that were traded in. This means the program is raising the average fuel economy of the fleet, while getting the dirtiest and most polluting vehicles off the road.

[Z28SSMAN]

Clunkers part 2

Requested Voucher Dollar Amount by State:
ALABAMA: $7,087,000
ALASKA: $1,166,000
ARIZONA: $6,527,500
ARKANSAS: $4,455,000
CALIFORNIA: $39,926,500
COLORADO: $7,758,000
CONNECTICUT: $8,916,000
DELAWARE: $1,562,000
FLORIDA: $26,947,000
GEORGIA: $12,469,500
HAWAII: $963,500
IDAHO: $3,395,000
ILLINOIS: $33,740,000
INDIANA: $18,729,500
IOWA: $12,184,500
KANSAS: $9,729,000
KENTUCKY: $9,178,000
LOUISIANA: $5,400,000
MAINE: $5,450,000
MARYLAND: $11,757,000
MASSACHUSETTS: $13,844,500
MICHIGAN: $44,399,500
MINNESOTA: $30,182,500
MISSISSIPPI: $2,431,500
MISSOURI: $16,101,500
MONTANA: $1,732,500
NEBRASKA: $7,392,000
NEVADA: $2,009,000
NEW HAMPSHIRE: $5,474,500
NEW JERSEY : $13,744,500
NEW MEXICO: $2,366,000
NEW YORK: $32,440,000
NORTH CAROLINA: $18,472,000
NORTH DAKOTA: $3,302,000
OHIO: $37,653,000
OKLAHOMA: $7,532,000
OREGON: $10,229,500
PENNSYLVANIA: $32,994,000
RHODE ISLAND: $2,392,000
SOUTH CAROLINA: $7,164,000
SOUTH DAKOTA: $4,033,500
TENNESSEE: $11,117,000
TEXAS: $35,010,000
UTAH: $5,095,000
VERMONT: $2,376,000
VIRGINIA: $18,376,500
WASHINGTON: $12,351,000
WEST VIRGINIA: $2,769,500
WISCONSIN: $24,042,000
WYOMING: $530,000

[FatTony]

Wow. No wonder dealerships are worried they're not going to get their money.

I had heard the following stats for MN on the news a couple weeks ago (I'm sure it's pretty different by now):

7,500 citizens filed
1% approved
8% denied
91% in limbo
40% of dealers stopped participating in the program

Additionally, I like how 60% of the top 10 new cars purchased are imports. Way to stimulate the Japanese economy :p

[Z28SSMAN]

Yeah, I'm sure there were good intentions when they introduced this program. It would have gone a lot smoother if they had asked people from the auto industry about how to implement it. It's a shame that some of the cars in perfectly good running condition had their engines destroyed. Places like Courage Center or Veterans could use them.

[98 cobra s/c]

this is a throw away world. dump them chev's.

[MR.hp]

My opinion is that this should have beed for domestic cars only, As the Zman always says that money always goes back overseas.

[Mudtrux]

It just tears me up some of the stuff that we junk but I now have a nice collection of car radios now.

[Fast One]

Edmunds: DOT’s Cash for Clunkers Top Ten List Gets It Wrong

Hi everyone. Here's some interesting info.

The DOT's numbers are heavily skewed. They use the same method of categorizing vehicles as the EPA does for fuel mileage stuff. They count model variations as separate models. Problem is, this method doesn't work for tabulating actual vehicle sales, as it dilutes the sales numbers for vehicles with many model variations. Of course, trucks & SUVs have many more model variations than most small cars do, so the DOT numbers make it look like most people are buying little cars, when in fact most people are buying small US-made SUVs, pick-ups, and small US-made cars.

Edmunds used actual dealer sales numbers by make/model, which is the only accurate way to tell how many of each model have been sold under the program. The entire top five, and eight of the top ten are US-made.

Rank:

Edmunds
1 Ford Escape
2 Ford Focus
3 Jeep Patriot
4 Dodge Caliber
5 Ford F-150
6 Honda Civic
7 Chevrolet Silverado
8 Chevrolet Cobalt
9 Toyota Corolla
10 Ford Fusion

DOT
1 Toyota Corolla
2 Ford Focus
3. Honda Civic
4 Toyota Prius
5 Toyota Camry
6 Hyundai Elantra
7 Ford Escape (FWD)
8 Dodge Caliber
9 Honda Fit
10 Chevrolet Cobalt

Check this out:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com)
Last Updated: August 7, 2009: 2:56 PM ET

What are people trading their clunkers in for? It depends on who you ask.

The government's results showed small cars as the top choice for shoppers looking for Cash for Clunker deals. But an independent analysis by Edmunds.com disputed those results, and showed that two full-size trucks and a small crossover SUV were actually among the top-ten buys.

The discrepancy is a result of the methods used. Edmunds.com uses traditional sales measurements, tallying sales by make and model. The government uses a more arcane measurement method that subdivides models according to engine and transmission types, counting them as separate models.

For example, the Ford Escape is available in six different versions including two- and four-wheel drive and hybrid versions. The government counts each version as a different vehicle using guidelines from the Environmental Protection Agency. Only the front wheel drive, non-hybrid version made the government's top ten list.

The Ford Escape crossover SUV, instead of being the seventh-most popular vehicle under the program, as the government ranked it, was actually the best seller, according to Edmunds.com. The government pegged the Ford Focus as the top seller.

Trucks tend to be available in more variations than cars. That's because truck buyers have a wider variety of needs than car buyers, General Motors spokesman Brian Goebel said. "There's just so many different uses for the truck, both retail and commercial, than with car purchasers," he said.

Sales of truck models would tend to be heavily diluted using the government's method because practically each version counts as a different vehicle. The difference in tallying methods would not affect the overall totals of trucks, as opposed to cars purchased under the program, only the sales rankings of individual models.

Sales of GM's Silverado truck, under the government's counting method, were divided among five different versions. So were the Ford F-150s. If the different versions of these trucks were considered the same vehicle, as auto sales are normally reported, sales of these trucks would look much heftier.

In the Cash for Clunkers program, trucks are actually subject to lower fuel economy requirements than cars, so it surprised many analysts that trucks weren't more popular.

Edmunds.com's "Top Ten Clunker Buys" list is based on transaction data collected directly from dealers.

NHTSA, the agency responsible for running Cash for Clunkers, was not immediately able to respond to a request for official Clunker sales tallies of several vehicles, including all their variations. When presented with Edmund's analysis, the agency didn't dispute that the way in which it counted the vehicles would tend to reduce the totals of vehicles with many variations.

Here is the full story from Edmunds: http://www.edmunds.com/help/about/pr...7/article.html

More here: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/edm...gets-it-wrong/

And here: http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/07/auto...ion=2009080714

[Mudtrux]

Here's a viable alternative

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80725631/