The police will do this to us this summer

[big block fiero]

CARB emissions laws in California allow them to randomly stop you and if you have done mods can ticket you for that. Your Senator, John Marty, introduced a Bill to adopt CARB laws here in MN and it has passed to the next level.

The bills are House File number 863

Senate File # 481

What can we do to stop this!

[UL_LUZ98]

What can we do to stop this!

Nothing.

Unless he can afford some lobbists

[big block fiero]

I like to build cars, I spend money on cars but now we can't. Now there's no need for me to put in any overtime at work since I won't be needing the money since I'll just sit around and doing nothing. I don't drink but this sounds like a good recipe for a societal change in activities.

[Tradbuilt]

link to the Senate file

MSRA's Annual "Run to the Hill" is the 22nd of this month.

8:00 am - Breakfast at Kelly Inn
11:00 - Run to the Hill (there's a cruise route. they're strict about protocol while doing this. Follow the lead car. No parking on the grass)
12-2pm - Meet representatives and hand deliver packets of info
1pm tour the capital

[big block fiero]

So is msra going to protest this? on the 22nd EARTH DAY !!!!!!

Is it for members only?

[Tradbuilt]

So is msra going to protest this? on the 22nd EARTH DAY !!!!!!

Is it for members only?

I don't know if it's MSRA members only. I don't really see how they would know who's a member and who isn't unless you have to show your member card to get into the breakfast or something. This was posted on my club forum and was posted elsewhere and emailed by a guy named Dick Johnson who is active with MSRA.

At the MSRA Meeting the Legislative committee, Butch Preem made an appeal to all car folks to contact their legislator IMMEDIATELY. The problem is a bill sponsored by John Marty of Roseville to implement the California emissions standards in Minnesota. They have been trying to find out exactly what that means and no one at the capitol or in California can answer the question.

What they do know is that if you have a car that has a motor in it that is less than 30 years old, before you can sell the car it must be brought up to the emissions standards of the engine when it was new regardless of the year of the car.

Example. My 37 ford has a crate motor in it. 2006 I think, before I could sell that car I would have to have catalytic converters and the car tested to meet the standards of that engine the year it was manufactured.


This is Scary: We need to contact our State reps now it is already through committee and could show up on the floor for a vote very soon.

If you do not know who your reps are here is the numbers to call:
Senate 1-888-234-1112 or 651-296-0504

House 651-296-2146 or 1-800-657-3550

The bills are House File number 863

Senate File # 481

We all need to Call Write and E-mail This weekend. and show up for the run to the hill April 22nd.

The MSRA is working hard to get answers' but the committee that passed it on, by their own admission does not know all the details.
DO THIS NOW: thanks Dick J.

[Z28SSMAN]

I dunno...there has to be some logic from the law enforcement people. They should be supportive of people who are in to cars. I would think that they would rather have these kids sitting in a lot talking about cars rather than being in to gangbanging, guns and or doing the drug scene. On the other hand, if a bunch of people are not behaving themselves, the officers have to do their job.

Everything was cool until a few years ago when that squad hit the curb and blew out his tire in front of Porky's. The dumbasses went out there and made fun of the cops and after that, they and the Porky's owners have had a different attitude towards the car guys. Before then, we used to sit in Porky's lot until 3AM and the cops just drove by and said nothing.

By the way...from what I've seen, John Marty is a joke.

[big block fiero]

bump

[Crazy]

this is bull shit

[MR.hp]

The last I read it was going to be for cars and trucks from 2012 and newer

[Guest]

The last I read it was going to be for cars and trucks from 2012 and newer

are you talking about the emissions requirements? if so, then I don't have as much of a problem with it because my car would still be ok to drive and I wouldn't have to convert it to efi or 4 cyl. I still wouldn't want it to pass, but at least this way it wouldn't affect current or older cars

[Tradbuilt]

The problem is it opens the door for further legislation later. Every other state complies to EPA regs. Why should MN have to follow California regs? We have enough government "protecting us for our own good" the way it is.

[UL_LUZ98]

The problem is it opens the door for further legislation later. Every other state complies to EPA regs. Why should MN have to follow California regs? We have enough government "protecting us for our own good" the way it is.

my normal response to this statment would be quit voting democrat, but the Rep. are geting just as bad.

[Tradbuilt]

my normal response to this statment would be quit voting democrat, but the Rep. are geting just as bad.

Are you assuming that I vote democrat?

[UL_LUZ98]

NO I have no clue. I am saying that there was a time when big brother was not big brother. Now we have a bunch of socialists in office.