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  • Cool build - 1964 Pontiac Safari Wagon

    Sharing this from another forum - just going to copy/paste:

    Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747502, member: 129078
    Grab a seat, and a drink. This first post will be a Great Wall of Text, and plenty of pics too :)

    This is a copy/paste from the Driven forum. I was asked to copy it in here. Its all progress since I purchased the car. Initial post will be long and might have some duplicate photos.

    Last August I purchased my 64 Safari. I found it in Chicago. It was listed on eBay. The pictures weren't very good but the seller (zero feedback) said that it was in really good shape. Rumor has it they bought the car for only $1500! This car was parked in a garage since 1997. Here are the pictures listed on eBay







    I saw evidence of some rust, but not much. Given its age and location, it actually looked pretty good! I then asked for some under carriage shots, I figured this would make or break the deal. This is what I got





    Again, not too good, but good enough. We agreed on a price that was below the reserve, and I sent a deposit. I then tried calling them for the next two days, with no answer. The weird thing is that they never removed the auction, so I started to worry. I decided to "buy it now" to ensure it was mine. They can deal with paying the fees. So I hit Buy it Now, and within 5 minutes the seller called me. Funny how that works.

    "So I see you really wanted the car!" Yeah, no kidding lol So I made arrangements to go up there the next week. I was like a kid waiting for Christmas! :)

    So, I loaded up my Tundra with a uhaul auto transport and went from Roanoke, VA to Naperville, IL. Roughly a 12 hour trip before stops and traffic. I left very early on a Friday morning, met with a business contact for dinner, stumbled to my hotel and passed out about 11pm. I had been up about 22 hours. In the blink of an eye my alarm went off and I had NO trouble waking up! I even skipped my coffee which is a feat in itself.

    I drove 15 minutes to see the car. It was in a nice subdivision, and as I took my final right hand turn, I saw it in the driveway. This is what I saw







    It was still obstructed by brush. I looked it over best I could. it started right up, with a HORRIBLE noise. I thought it was valvetrain, but thank god it was only the heat riser valve on the passenger exhaust manifold! We all piled in the car to go to a local garage. I made it very clear I wanted to inspect the undercarriage for rust.

    Here we go! The two in front were co-owners. They had been friends 20+ years and they bickered like they were married LOL


    The car rode fine. it was sweet crusing in the back seat with all the windows down. It drove nice and quiet, but had a weird vibration at slow speeds.

    At the garage, I took these photos real quick while the owners told the shop owner we were here. It was the first good look I got at the wagon. All the chrome was real nice, the interior was real nice too. This wagon had the 2 options that I really really wanted:

    -A Roof Rack. You can see its in remarkable shape.
    -Rear facing 3rd seat

  • #2
    Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747508, member: 129078












    Look at that steering wheel....its almost perfect!


    Here it is on the lift, and the ugly undercarriage






    Its crunchy, but not too bad. Just surface rust. No rot, and the floors looked perfect! We drove the car back to the owners house. This time it was my turn to drive it, so exciting! Again it drove fine, I loved it! The only thing was that shudder/vibration. I thought it may have been the posi in the axle, but I found out it doesn't have a posi. I replaced some bad u joints and its still there. Did a little more driving, and the shudder goes away in neutral or low gear. Great, something is wrong with this 2 speed "Slim Jim" transmission that I've heard nothing good about. No worries, I have a good TH400 at home. Other things the car needed were 2 front fenders, and a passenger rear door. They had some rust.

    So, we load up the car and I start my trek home! The way home will be split into 2 days, much easier.

    I drove until early that afternoon and stopped in Pontiac, IL. I love visiting my friends Tim and Penny Dye. They run the Pontiac Museum....chock full of Pontiac cars and memorabilia!



    Inside, I had to visit my absolute favorite display. Its the only display that I haven't seen change in the 4 years I've been going. Wonder why I like it?









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    • #3
      Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747513, member: 129078
      Here we are, ready to hit the road again



      Gas time!


      I left about 2:30 in the afternoon to continue my trek towards Ohio, when this nasty storm popped out of nowhere.



      I stopped at a gas station and a truck walked in very shaken, telling me to "get cover. Park that Pontiac in a car wash, and let that Toyota hang out the front...you can replace he truck". This had me a little concerned.

      Well, this doesn't look good.


      yup its pretty bad. People were literally driving up the ramps under the overpass to get out of the ridiculous hail


      I found a parking lot to pull into. This was one of the worst storms I'd been in. Almost no visibility. Listen to that hail pounding the truck!

      http://vid60.photobucket.com/albums/...pswgdwlryd.mp4

      I waited about 30 minutes and it finally passed. I drove a few more hours and found a hotel in Ohio for the night.

      I stopped at a friends house in Ohio the next morning. he buys and sells a ton of Pontiac parts and has a cool collection of cars. After talking with him a bit, I purchased some parts

      A good passenger fender with no rust on the bottom


      And a replacement steering column for floor shift


      Not pictured, is an NOS rear passenger door. I couldn't believe it! I snatched that up quick lol

      After I left Johns, I drove the rest of the way home. I got home late that sunday. It was a LONG 3 days on the road, but so worth it :)

      When I got the car home, I brought it to a body shop to get an estimate for a repaint, then I brought it to a garage for:

      - tune up
      -wheel cylinders
      -diagnose possible bad transission
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747517, member: 129078
        I also had the gas tank sent out to be reconditioned. It had some pinholes. I sent it to a "Gas-Tank Renu" franchise. They coat the inside and outside with what looks like an undercoating


        I also had the fuel sender rebuilt, since the gauge didn't work.

        I got the car back running better than it had been, and a confirmation of a bad transmission. In the meantime, my new VA License plates came in



        I hired a mobile sandblaster to do the nasty job of cleaning the undercarriage.



        He did it in the back lot of the body shop, so when he was done, the body shop could immediately seal it.

        Primed:








        And "chip coated"








        So, my main concern was now taken care of. I brought it to my shop for the first time, and got some better picture













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        • #5
          Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747518, member: 129078












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          • #6
            Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747523, member: 129078
            I have been searching online for a LONG time for a 4 speed swap for my wagon. What would be cooler than rowing gears in this grocery getter?? When the lowest price I found for a used setup was $2500 plus shipping, I began thinking of other alternatives. That is when I got a lead from a local Pontiac-Oakland Club (POCI) Member about a 64 catalina he heard of years ago. Lo and behold, look what I bought!

            a 64 Catalina with a 4 speed and a posi! The price was only $2k! Its rusty, but has everything I need. 4 speed swap, posi, and even a NEW radiator that will need to go in my wagon :) Once I take what I need, I will try to sell the car or part it out. If I can get my money back out of it that would be amazing!







            So fast foward to today. Both cars have been dropped off at a garage for the 4 speed swap. I've also ordered a TON of parts today to go on.

            -4 wheel disc brake swap
            -FAST EZ-EFI 2.0 fuel injected setup
            -068 Pontiac Cam, springs, and lifters
            -Weatherstripping
            -Timing gears
            -assorted paint
            -motor mounts
            -log branch high flow manifolds

            Plans is to pull the motor and trans at the same time. I will do my best to detail the engine bay, and paint the motor Pontiac blue. Once it goes in with the new exhaust manifolds, and the 4 speed is swapped in, I will bring the car to an exhaust shop for true dual exhaust. Once that is done, I will do the EFI swap with my buddy David. I'll post in progress pictures as I can.

            I have a deadline of the end of december to have all mechanical work done. January 1st the car is going in for a complete repaint. I'm torn between dark metallic forest green, or dark metallic gunmetal grey. I will be deleting the body line chrome, rocker panel chrome, and likely the window trim. It will all be body colored.

            While it is stripped down for paint, I plan on installing air ride, and some nice 18" american racing wheels.

            fiddling with the car, I ran into a problem with the 4 barrel intake. Its different than my 4150 style throttle body






            Found an adapter on ebay for $30, solved that issue.

            Pulled the engine and transmission


            Brought the car back to the body shop to get the engine bay painted. $450 to make it look factory. Little steep, but they do good work




            This is how it turned out.








            Asbsolutely HORRIBLE. They've done so good on all my other cars, I don't understand how this happened. They painted over old stickers, painted over leafs, and worst of all they didn't clean a damn thing and painted over all the grease and dirt! WTF! You can also see they didn't remove the radiator mount (2 bolts) to paint under it. WTF! I'm going to talk with them this morning and let them know this is 100% unacceptable.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747528, member: 129078
              Resealed the Saginaw, and spray bombed it


              Ordered new shifter linkage bushings. They were literally all missing from the car. no wonder if always felt like it was in neutral!


              Replaced the timing set, water pump, oil pump, all the gaskets, and scrubbed down the 389










              My best buddy David has been helping me a TON with this car. Well, there has been a setback in the cars progress



              My valve covers were in here




              This is the SECOND time he's fell asleep at the wheel and totalled a car. Had the driver door not popped open and given him someplace to fall out, he'd be dead. His seatbelt would have kept him pinned. He's super lucky to only have got a couple fractured ribs.

              My buddy is ok, and I'm real glad. When he sent me those pictures, it never set right with me. I told him he needs to go get a second and third medical opinion. His first Dr. said he was ok. I don't believe it.

              SO, I need new valve covers. I bought these on ebay for $75


              I will paint them blue as well.

              I asked my buddy last night if he wants me to bring the wagon to a shop. I don't want him to feel pressured, and I don't want to bug him while he heals. He needs to focus on himself. Haven't heard back yet...I hope I didn't make him upset :(

              Anyway, if he decides to keep working on it, we're at a good point. The engine and trans are pretty much ready to go back in, and get the car set up for the 4 speed. Once its running, the plan is to drive it (open manifolds hehehe) to an exhaust shop. Then we proceed with the efi, and 4 wheel brakes.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747530, member: 129078
                My buddy is pretty much healed up now, and progress on the car has resumed.

                My valve covers were wrecked in the crash so I upgraded to a cooler set


                stripped and painted silver for some contrast


                Ready to go in


                test fitting the ram air manifolds




                CLOSE FIT looking for an alternative


                Its back in, but not finished just yet


                Hole has been cut for the shifter


                This "shifter porch" gives a flat spot for the shift boot to set
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747532, member: 129078
                  test fit


                  have to open it up a bit more. this is the trim ring


                  Mocked up....looks great :)


                  Cool little bit found under the front carpet :)


                  Should be running and driving soon!

                  Couple weeks ago we tried to get the car running. The carb that was on the car magically stopped working. I took the new one off the parts car and put it on the motor. We got it to fire a little, but you can tell by the sound of the engine, that the timing is off. My buddy SWORE he never moved the distributor, but it was out of time.

                  http://vid60.photobucket.com/albums/...pspujug3g4.mp4

                  The transmission swap is almost done. The shift linkages were hitting the floor, so we had to massage it a little in these spots



                  Believe it or not, this shift indicator was interfering with the new pedals from my parts car


                  Luckily, the parts car had the proper delete plate!


                  Here it is installed. This is a $300 piece, IF you can find one. Another win!


                  Installed


                  Automatic pedal on bottom, manual pedal on top. The manual pedal was hitting the auto shift indicator. Didn't expect that problem.


                  The pedals are in! Just have to mount the gas pedal
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747533, member: 129078
                    So, this past July I was at the Pontiac-Oakland Club nationals. While in the swap meet I found something I wanted so bad. After 2 days of thinking on it, I decided to pass. Its specific to a station wagon. I told myself "I'm not going to buy a part, for a car I don't even own." Two weeks later, I found and purchased my wagon! I've regretted my decision ever since....until last week!


                    Its an NOS roof rack luggage bag! It will look right at home :) I doubt I'll find another any time soon, so I snatched this up right away.

                    the transmission going in this car is not made for this car. Everything has been bolt in, aside from massaging the floor a little. We have had to alter the stock crossmember to accomodate a new mount for the saginaw 4 speed being installed. Here are some pics



                    the hoop is where the mount will eventually go. Will add some gussets for strength


                    Throttle linkage back on


                    Dropped off some replacement panels at the body shop. The car will be here in 1 week.



                    NOS door!


                    more crossmember shots





                    All done!



                    Radiator is in, engine bay is pretty much done for now



                    Should be on the ground and running today
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747538, member: 129078
                      Car is on the ground, driveable, and at the paint shop!

                      Here is a quick shot of the crossmember


                      Disassembly has started....finding sand everywhere!


                      Blower motor and heater box to be removed. Putting in a block off plate, since I am installing vintage air.


                      Cowl tag





                      Needs some repair










                      Progress today.

                      before


                      during
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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747540, member: 129078
                        after :)


                        fender wells off



                        Fenders being repaired




                        goodbye antenna hole



                        repaired fender


                        Side trim is off


                        Holes welded up


                        1/4 panel dents being pulled out


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747542, member: 129078
                          more progress!

                          Measuring the sticker thats been on the car since 1965 in case I want to try to get a duplicate


                          quarter panel work



                          taillights are out. doesn't look too bad



                          rockers have had the trim removed and holes filled





                          quarter panels are done! :)




                          More updates:

                          sanded the quarters and put some more guide coat on them. they are pretty much 100% now



                          Tailgate looks a little crusty but my body guy says "Sonny fix!" lol See that metal strip? I need one. Dont know where to get it.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747545, member: 129078




                            Found some wheels today. "Ridler" brand. They are chinese, so I will keep an eye on them.


                            I bought the wheels on the right, for the rear. Love that huge lip! 20x10 in the rear, and 18x8 in the front. $700 for all the wheels, lugnuts, and valve stems.


                            Pulled it out to work on it


                            paid some attention to the firewall. Ended up removing the heater box.





                            Installed a block off plate as I will be running an under dash AC unit
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Justintiime, post: 170747546, member: 129078
                              Seam sealer!



                              Tailgate coming apart...will need some repair









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