Prius just got owned - Volt gets 127 mpg

[98 cobra s/c]

ok, i saw that. that is great. i only got 1500.00 but that still is alot of money and will be harder to sell. a cheaper price would really get things rolling.

[98 cobra s/c]

that still does nothing for this so called ignorance, i do own 2 american vehicles and when ford offers what i'm looking for maybe some day i'd buy one.

[Gerald]

I shouldn't have called your car a piece of shit. But why would you spend $25k on a Civic? You could have had a Fusion Hybrid for between $25k to $27k and the Fusion is American, it's a bigger car, more room, looks better, and it gets 41 in the city. What does your Civic get? And no tall tales of the time you drove down from the Rockies on your trip to Aspen and you coasted for 10 miles and drove like a grandma hyper-mileing and got 60 mpg with the A/C off. Real world in the city - you get what - 40 to 45 mpg? And on top of that you have to be seen in a Civic. :( I'm sure no one asks you to drive when you go out to dinner with friends.

I don't understand people who buy into the hybrid stuff - I mean honestly I think the Volt is expensive. But 127 mpg is impressive to me - it blows the Prius out of the water. But if you really wanted to save the environment and save money, why not buy a $13k non-hybrid econo-car and get 34-36 mpg - a Prius or a Civic hybrid is never going to save enough gas money to outweigh the price difference for cost of ownership over a 10 year period. And the difference in emissions is minimal. God isn't going to pat you on your back when you die and be like, "Yeah ya really saved the environment when you bought that Civic hybrid and your car emitted .000000000000002 less microns of CO2 in comparison to the non-hybrid Focus. I'll overlook the fact that you didn't think about the nickel they use in the batteries that is dug up in mines that creates a complete dead-zone within a 3 mile radius of the actual mines where there is no life because it poisons the entire landscape. Come on in to heaven buddy."

I don't get why people just buy into the hype about this stuff. Like people with their Mac notebooks or iPhones - you can look at the specs and tell someone that the HP has better hardware, better software, is cheaper, has more potential, but they will buy the Mac cuz "it's better cuz it's a Mac". Or they'll buy the iPhone over the EVO. Why? Cuz it's an iPhone. I don't get it.

I guess if you're happy then more power to ya. I just think people buy the hybrid stuff and give the excuse that they did it to save the environment, or to save money, but deep down they don't know shit about the environment, and they didn't think to sit down and calculate and compare the actual cost of ownership with other comparable non-hybrid vehicles.

[Z28SSMAN]

You'll never change Joe's mind about his civic. I tried showing him the cost of ownership data and he either didn't understand it or didn't want to because he had already bought his car. Joe's a good guy though. Maybe he deserves to drive a civic. Lol. Gerald's logic is hard to argue with and pretty much mirrors my thoughts.

[Z28SSMAN]

your pretty ignorant

http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/17/canadi...angers-toyota/

You're pretty ignorant for saying YOUR pretty ignorant. Lol

[98 cobra s/c]

tsk,tsk,tsk, i am not mad. say what you want. the fusion was not for sale in 08. get your facts straight. 41 city???? that is on a 2010 model not the 09. what did i say???? 42 to 50 city AND highway combined. no hypermiling, no coasting. I drive with a LEAD foot. you do not know me at all........ I have mpg list from the time i bought it, sitting right here in my den. It was my first honda and I have been surprised on how it has ran. very good. only one repair for wiper motor. covered by warranty. The mpg on that fusion?? I would not believe ford!!!! maybe some real numbers fron a live person i would believe, not ford they have lied to me on my truck, cobra, 93 escort, 2003 zx2 etc.... they lie!!! and this is a proven fact. the other all motor mpg cars ARE shit boxes. I beat their mpg by alot!!!!!!! and i have a nicer riding, more interior room and can fit my fat ass into it. I was at the mercury dealer just yesterday and looked at 2 milan hybrids. Very nice but the sticker said 41 city, 39 hwy or was it 36....anyways it is for sale for 33k. I can get a lot of gas for 8k, right glen??? sooooo thats a lot of money. I thought of buying a regular civic but for the 3k more i get more options and better mpg. I am saving over a thousand per year on gas over the reg. civic, focus and my old zx2. easy. no joke. Soooo using glen's gas to cost ratio i have gotten my xtra cash back. right glen????? also if i was to use this ratio against the volt....... what would that be......17k worth of gas???? hmmmm...... i can buy alot of gas for 17k. I am not a tree hugger, i am sick and tired of giving money to oil co's who are ripping us off. as for the envirionment my cobra makes up for the less polution in like 10 min's. lol the civic is tho a partial zero emisssions car. that is really low..... as in the lowest possible. The american car makers are still today not making anything i want. my civic blows them all out of the water. now this volt might be the tickit but i'm still wondering how much would the electric bill go up?? but i am sure it would be cheaper than gas.

[Z28SSMAN]

You putz. Lol. Yeah, I can't stand the American car companies. I definitely wouldn't want a ZR1 or Z06 OR CTS -V or a new Duramax crew. Nor any new Enclave or Denali crew or 403 HP Denali suv or Camaro SS. And as far as Ford's go, the new Taurus or Fusion or 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 are nowhere near as desirable as your hybrid civic. Yep, the American car companies really need to start building cars people want to buy
You're a funny Guy.

[98 cobra s/c]

the post says, I want, NOT YOU WANT. please re-read!!!! I didn't want any of those cars or need any of them. How many new cars have you purchased glen ????? In my posts it was about what I was looking for not dreaming. If i wanted a truck f-150 would be it. If i wanted a large car prolly a taurus but i would look at chevs line up. If i wanted a sports car, a shelby would be it but of course i can't afford such prices. or maybe that slp camaro but again I can't afford a 62k car. And I have looked at one close up. it's at merit chev. that was some funny shit when I walked into the chev dealer and I laid into them good but that story should not be in this thread. But oh great mystic boss what you think i should buy is not what I think I should buy.... sorry. but your a good person anyways.

[Z28SSMAN]

Oh, I see. The civic is the only car for you.

[Typhoon]

I think the Prius looks like a camping tent on wheels. That and it's really gay looking. LOL

[Z28SSMAN]

the post says, I want, NOT YOU WANT. please re-read!!!! I didn't want any of those cars or need any of them. How many new cars have you purchased glen ????? In my posts it was about what I was looking for not dreaming. If i wanted a truck f-150 would be it. If i wanted a large car prolly a taurus but i would look at chevs line up. If i wanted a sports car, a shelby would be it but of course i can't afford such prices. or maybe that slp camaro but again I can't afford a 62k car. And I have looked at one close up. it's at merit chev. that was some funny shit when I walked into the chev dealer and I laid into them good but that story should not be in this thread. But oh great mystic boss what you think i should buy is not what I think I should buy.... sorry. but your a good person anyways.

My Camaro SS was purchased brand new sir. The same car which has run each and every year I've owned it without blowing a single motor. The car you disrepected and got your ass kicked by. The car I've never had to take to Hi-Tech, add nitrous, roll cages and whatever (like you did) in order to prove a point to anyone.

Quadroflux made a good point in his post which is no longer here. (I deleted it because it was too painful to read) He asked what Merit did to you to cause you to "lay into them good".

I don't know what you said to them but if you "laid into them good", it couldn't have been anything they deserved. Merit is an honorable dealership that has conducted a respectable business for decades.

I agree with Quadro that Merit didn't blow up your motors and rip you off for thousands of dollars for years, but you go there and give them a hard time while you only give Hi-Tech a hard time hiding behind a computer screen. That logic, like other things you've done make no sense.

If I were a manager there...depending on what you said and if you were disrupting business, I would have kicked your ass out of my dealership.

Just my 2 cents.

[MR.hp]

I would like to spend 65K or better on a shelby so I can run 11.60s
Wow, What a deal:rotfl:

[98 cobra s/c]

what is this????? I ask 2 questions and I am dumped on???? I make a post and get dumped on and every thing i own???? why????? I asked 2 questions and I have to defend my purchase of my honda. Now i get dumped on for my mustang too??? well, okay, i was just trying to make a friendly post. guess not. slam the mustang, real easy target ain't it. slam away, there is nothing you can say that I havent said to myself already. Hiding behind my keyboard??? Do you want me to go up there??? That would solve nothing and only get me arrested. Don't you think??? I wish i could go up there and give them a large piece of my mind but i am sure they'd call 911 as soon as i walked in the door. I never disrespected your camaro... that first race i didn't even know you. so how was that disrespectful???? thinking i could win was that it???? I never said anything to you at that time only where did you want to race!!!! If i thought i was gonna lose why would i race then?????? ain't that normal to think you have a chance??? I have even stuck up for your camaro many times, doesn't that count for something??? You go on and on about chevys but you usually buy used at great prices that us normal buyers never could get but you trash everything that we buy cuz it ain't a chev. the point I was trying to make was if they are so great why don't you buy more new ones. buying one ten years ago was great, but maybe they are not so great today. why are you slammin' me after every post???? hi=tech turned out to be a big mistake and boy am i paying for it, i don't need a so called friend slammin me about hi-tech after every post. I have moved on and am trying to get things worked out with the cobra and it has taken some time but thanks for the support. anything else you want to say???? If you want me off your site just say so, you don't have to beat around the bush..... just let it out!

[MR.hp]

what is this????? I ask 2 questions and I am dumped on???? I make a post and get dumped on and every thing i own???? why????? I asked 2 questions and I have to defend my purchase of my honda. Now i get dumped on for my mustang too??? well, okay, i was just trying to make a friendly post. guess not. slam the mustang, real easy target ain't it. slam away, there is nothing you can say that I havent said to myself already. Hiding behind my keyboard??? Do you want me to go up there??? That would solve nothing and only get me arrested. Don't you think??? I wish i could go up there and give them a large piece of my mind but i am sure they'd call 911 as soon as i walked in the door. I never disrespected your camaro... that first race i didn't even know you. so how was that disrespectful???? thinking i could win was that it???? I never said anything to you at that time only where did you want to race!!!! If i thought i was gonna lose why would i race then?????? ain't that normal to think you have a chance??? I have even stuck up for your camaro many times, doesn't that count for something??? You go on and on about chevys but you usually buy used at great prices that us normal buyers never could get but you trash everything that we buy cuz it ain't a chev. the point I was trying to make was if they are so great why don't you buy more new ones. buying one ten years ago was great, but maybe they are not so great today. why are you slammin' me after every post???? hi=tech turned out to be a big mistake and boy am i paying for it, i don't need a so called friend slammin me about hi-tech after every post. I have moved on and am trying to get things worked out with the cobra and it has taken some time but thanks for the support. anything else you want to say???? If you want me off your site just say so, you don't have to beat around the bush..... just let it out!

Hi, Joe.

[Z28SSMAN]

what is this????? I ask 2 questions and I am dumped on???? I make a post and get dumped on and every thing i own???? why????? I asked 2 questions and I have to defend my purchase of my honda. Now i get dumped on for my mustang too??? well, okay, i was just trying to make a friendly post. guess not. slam the mustang, real easy target ain't it. slam away, there is nothing you can say that I havent said to myself already. Hiding behind my keyboard??? Do you want me to go up there??? That would solve nothing and only get me arrested. Don't you think??? I wish i could go up there and give them a large piece of my mind but i am sure they'd call 911 as soon as i walked in the door. I never disrespected your camaro... that first race i didn't even know you. so how was that disrespectful???? thinking i could win was that it???? I never said anything to you at that time only where did you want to race!!!! If i thought i was gonna lose why would i race then?????? ain't that normal to think you have a chance??? I have even stuck up for your camaro many times, doesn't that count for something??? You go on and on about chevys but you usually buy used at great prices that us normal buyers never could get but you trash everything that we buy cuz it ain't a chev. the point I was trying to make was if they are so great why don't you buy more new ones. buying one ten years ago was great, but maybe they are not so great today. why are you slammin' me after every post???? hi=tech turned out to be a big mistake and boy am i paying for it, i don't need a so called friend slammin me about hi-tech after every post. I have moved on and am trying to get things worked out with the cobra and it has taken some time but thanks for the support. anything else you want to say???? If you want me off your site just say so, you don't have to beat around the bush..... just let it out!

Chill out man.

1. Let me "refresh your memory". The first time you said anything to me after you looked at my car and shrugged was

" I just ran one of these and he couldn't keep up".

I felt it was disrespectful and as a result of what you said, I proceeded to put 7-8 car lengths on you (and that's after you took off first).
2. I'm not ragging on you at all. I only responded after you implied you gave the guys at Merit a hard time. I felt that if anybody needed to be given a hard time by you, Hi-Tech would be more deserving.
3. I don't slam you about Hi-Tech after every post. Show me proof where I've done this. In fact you've had the use of my site to publicly say what you experienced there.
4. I have no need to buy a new car every few years because I am supplied a company car every few months. You asked how many new cars I've bought and I simply responded.
5. As far as defending your Honda? I don't like Honda's, Toyota's or Nissan's. I've made it perfectly clear that I don't. I'm not going to let anyone post here and brag about any of those cars without me stating how I feel about them. If you don't want my opinion about them, then don't post about them.
6. You don't have to like Chevy's. If you decide to post here that you don't like Chevs or GM's, then be prepared for me to tell you that your choice isn't any better.
7. Unlike my dislike for the three imports I mentioned, I have no problem with Fords....especially yours. I feel bad for what you've gone through on your car. On the other hand, you made the choice to modify your Ford to try and compete and unfortunately it obviously wasn't a very good choice. I would never accept what you went through.
8. You've been welcome here and will continue to be welcome. If you post something I disagree with, then I will respond. If you're sensitive to the response you get, then that's not my problem.

peace bro