Classic 03 Cobra vs Z06 vid

[Z28SSMAN]

Oh there's no doubt they put out great dyno numbers. Most that I saw were pigs at the track --all things considered.

The Northern Ill boys down at Great Lakes parked their hi powered Cobras when I clicked off consistent 11.8s on a cold track. They obviously had more power but couldn't get the job done against a pathetic LS1 without forged pistons and no power adders. Did they think I was out there flinging shit? Is that why they wouldn't line up against me? Hmmm...looks like THEY were the ones on the sidelines. lol

In this video...the guys standing watching were the owners of those hi powered Cobras. After I made this pass, I parked behind the bleachers and left the car idling and popped the hood. They went over looking underneath the hood and underneath the car. Not sure what they were looking for but that was hilarious.

http://home.comcast.net/~grussel396/Camaro_0001.wmv (turn the volume up on this one)

[DNeinstadt]

Certainly you're not saying that the CAR is at fault for drivers that can't hook it up at the track? I'm not the best driver here. I would venture to say you could jump in my car and run a better time than I can but that doesn't mean the CAR is at fault. :)

By the way 11.89 is nothing to sneeze at with a car running all motor.. I think you're a very impressive driver for sure.

Dan

[MR.hp]

Glenn cheats.

[98 cobra s/c]

boy, you really hate '03's and '04's. or just all cobra's?? guess they'll have to stick up for themselves if they have enuf gut's.

[DNeinstadt]

^ sticking up for TERMINATORS. :)

[98 cobra s/c]

What is your best time danny?? and what is your averaged times???

[98 cobra s/c]

I only stick up for decepticons.lmfao

[Z28SSMAN]

Certainly you're not saying that the CAR is at fault for drivers that can't hook it up at the track? I'm not the best driver here. I would venture to say you could jump in my car and run a better time than I can but that doesn't mean the CAR is at fault. :)

By the way 11.89 is nothing to sneeze at with a car running all motor.. I think you're a very impressive driver for sure.

Dan

Actually.... I am saying it probably is as much the car's fault because in my opinion they are not well suited for competitive drag racing. From what I've seen, most Cobra owners will go to the track and get ONE good ET but the rest of their runs are all over the spectrum, but they brag about that ONE good ET. As a result, they elect to use the cars for frum-roll racing.

Also, they shoot their mouths off about their dyno numbers, but I've never seen anyone compare dyno numbers at the end of the track to determine who won the race. Hi Tech has gobbled up many a dollar from guys wanting that big dyno number, leading them to believe that's going to give them a win over a competitor. Also, many strive for the big number because they know they need it to offset their piss poor driving skills and the portly weight and IRS which are part of the design inadequacies of their Cobras.

Let's say a Cobra owner gets a dyno slip of 550 rwhp @ 6800 rpm but makes 450 @ 5000-5500 rpm. Logic would tell me that unless he's able to keep his engine @ 6800 throughout the drag race and his engine spends most of the time @ 5500, then he's obviously not making 550 rwhp. Combine that with the other shortcomings and the playing field is considerably equalized.

That's why I haven't been impressed with the local competition enough to go out and modify my car to add an extra 100-200 hp or add nitrous. If I can run hi 11s without a 100-150 shot, I most likely can shave off a second with it.

Thanks for the compliments sir. We all have our preferences and it would be a boring world if we all liked the same make.

[DNeinstadt]

Probably true. The 99-01 and 2000R Cobras were built mostly for corner carving, hence the aluminum block in '99/01 and the 2000R's great suspension & braking. The 2003/2004 made up for the lost horsepower of 1999 and when Ford made the supercharged '03/04's a bit stronger for power and everyone all of a sudden thought they were drag racing cars. They obviously aren't and weren't. You're right, they were heavy (>3800 lbs if I recall right) when equipped with the IRS and they often had trouble with the halfshafts snapping with slicks or sticky tires on them.


Joe, I don't go to the track that often as my car is still IRS-equipped, but my guess is that someone that knows how to drive can probably pilot a 10 second time in my car, but my best is a low 11 on my OLD config. New config is probably a solid low 11 timeslip but I don't have much desire to drag race without a cage & get kicked out of a $70 test day for 1 run. :)

Z28SSMAN, Ford rules. Chevy sucks. Don't you know that by now? LOL.

Dan

[Z28SSMAN]

Well, I disagree. Dan, it's all speculation as to what your car will run. Until you get the timeslip...your comments are worthless and you're only dyno racing. With that line of thinking, we should all just race dyno slips and the race tracks might as well close.

A good friend of mine repeatedly said he had a 10 sec car. I asked how he arrived at that conclusion. He said a friend of his had the same setup and ran 10's. I told him that I was offended by people who bench or dyno race. It was a slap in the face to racers who go to the track--go through all the frustrations and disappointments to have a guy sit back and say what their car will run without ever taking the car down the track.

I challenged him to take the car to the track and prove it or keep his mouth shut. He said the typical benchracing comments--"I don't want to get kicked out by going too fast"; "a timeslip doesn't mean anything" (I asked if it didn't mean anything then why say he had a 10 sec car?); "I don't have a trailer" along with other excuses.

I told him I'd trailer him to the track and if he ran 10's I'd pay for gas etc but if he didn't...he'd have to pay.

The bottom line? He ran nowhere near 10's but had the mph of a 10 sec car. I was impressed with his mph and told him so. We all know mph can be impressive, but mph doesn't get you to the finish line first. Getting a good ET requires a number of things to go right, especially driving skills.

[DNeinstadt]

Z28SSMAN, as usual, great points.

Heh, I thought I was careful when I tried to say very carefully that I thought I could pilot a low 11 in my car but you run a 10 in my car "as-equipped" but you're right, it's all bullshit bench racing until you have a slip in your hand. I just didn't get too much into drag racing because 1. It isn't quite built for it, having IRS, and I'm not the best driver in the world either. <excuses excuses>, and 2. I'm not huge into drag racing. More of a poser I guess. :)

Given my RWHP, weight, and YOUR driving ability, I'm confident with some practice, YOU could turn 10's. Could I? Maybe. Maybe not. I do enjoy drag racing here and there but I don't have a set of slicks I'm willing to throw on the car to run a sub 1.5 60' to rip off a 10. :)

Who knows, Maybe I'll try to find some time to go to RF this year with some of you yahoos...

Dan

[fastkeen]

Oh there's no doubt they put out great dyno numbers. Most that I saw were pigs at the track --all things considered.

The Northern Ill boys down at Great Lakes parked their hi powered Cobras when I clicked off consistent 11.8s on a cold track. They obviously had more power but couldn't get the job done against a pathetic LS1 without forged pistons and no power adders. Did they think I was out there flinging shit? Is that why they wouldn't line up against me? Hmmm...looks like THEY were the ones on the sidelines.

Whats all done to your Z28?

[MR.hp]

Whats all done to your Z28?

Not as much as people would think. I am not speaking for Glenn but for a just "bolt on parts" car I have seen this car give many fits since 2004 including myself on the street.

[98 cobra s/c]

I'd say a low 11 dan isn't bad. With the irs you can't do a hard launch. Some other 03-04's couldn't do that good when i saw them at the track so good job.

[DNeinstadt]

:sux: Bah Humbug!